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		<title>By: akersbp@hotmail.com</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[You&#039;re welcome, a pleasure.  I hope it proves interesting, seemed possibly relevant to points in your discussion.

Thanks for your reply too.  I find question in suggestion, if I understand -- that a cognitive dissonance trap does or can do, anything but ... trap... 

Mine is mainly inquiry, and gathering sense of concern about myriad issues and considerations.  

I&#039;m sure you know about the fox who merely decided: why, he never wanted those grapes after all -- after Plan A (grab &#039;em and feast) didn&#039;t work out.

A similar (to my eye) spectacle seems to be unfolding now, for better or worse.  Whatever might matter, other than Must Love Terence, is getting a mighty heave ho.  A new &quot;Woman Scorned&quot; theory about TM&#039;s ex, letting on about &quot;TM&#039;s Last Mushroom Trip&quot; ... And, Dennis jealous of his late brother.  

All kinds of new reasons are spawning from the woodwork, crawling out -- why TM is simply above reproach or question.

Till this week&#039;s news -- I thought we&#039;d have to wait for Dec 21, to hear why we all love Terence &quot;Now More Than Ever&quot; (as we must) -- and why his ideas are more true and brilliant, why his stock has gone up now (what&#039;s this talk about bankruptcy??).  

That&#039;s the problem I find in general for any such &#039;psy ops&#039; -- those who bite the hook most can&#039;t ever get it out -- only reeled in furthur than ever been before.  And then furthur.  

What perspective to put it in, is the final redoubt, as I find.  What will TM&#039;s followers have inherited, when the final die is cast?  

Thanks again, I respectfully mark your words.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re welcome, a pleasure.  I hope it proves interesting, seemed possibly relevant to points in your discussion.</p>
<p>Thanks for your reply too.  I find question in suggestion, if I understand &#8212; that a cognitive dissonance trap does or can do, anything but &#8230; trap&#8230; </p>
<p>Mine is mainly inquiry, and gathering sense of concern about myriad issues and considerations.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure you know about the fox who merely decided: why, he never wanted those grapes after all &#8212; after Plan A (grab &#8216;em and feast) didn&#8217;t work out.</p>
<p>A similar (to my eye) spectacle seems to be unfolding now, for better or worse.  Whatever might matter, other than Must Love Terence, is getting a mighty heave ho.  A new &#8220;Woman Scorned&#8221; theory about TM&#8217;s ex, letting on about &#8220;TM&#8217;s Last Mushroom Trip&#8221; &#8230; And, Dennis jealous of his late brother.  </p>
<p>All kinds of new reasons are spawning from the woodwork, crawling out &#8212; why TM is simply above reproach or question.</p>
<p>Till this week&#8217;s news &#8212; I thought we&#8217;d have to wait for Dec 21, to hear why we all love Terence &#8220;Now More Than Ever&#8221; (as we must) &#8212; and why his ideas are more true and brilliant, why his stock has gone up now (what&#8217;s this talk about bankruptcy??).  </p>
<p>That&#8217;s the problem I find in general for any such &#8216;psy ops&#8217; &#8212; those who bite the hook most can&#8217;t ever get it out &#8212; only reeled in furthur than ever been before.  And then furthur.  </p>
<p>What perspective to put it in, is the final redoubt, as I find.  What will TM&#8217;s followers have inherited, when the final die is cast?  </p>
<p>Thanks again, I respectfully mark your words.</p>
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		<title>By: c4chaos</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2012 23:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[thanks for the link. i haven&#039;t read that yet. will definitely check it out!

excellent questions! from what I understand so far, the legacy of Terence McKenna is both a cognitive dissonance trap and a means to transcend that trap. McKenna taught people how to think from a higher and multiple hyper-spatial perspectives. 

i guess it would depend on the individual how deep and wide he/she wants to go and whether to come out *sane* on the other side of the Terence McKenna rabbit hole.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for the link. i haven&#8217;t read that yet. will definitely check it out!</p>
<p>excellent questions! from what I understand so far, the legacy of Terence McKenna is both a cognitive dissonance trap and a means to transcend that trap. McKenna taught people how to think from a higher and multiple hyper-spatial perspectives. </p>
<p>i guess it would depend on the individual how deep and wide he/she wants to go and whether to come out *sane* on the other side of the Terence McKenna rabbit hole.</p>
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		<title>By: akersbp@hotmail.com</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2012 14:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I write to mention a scholarly lit source, &quot;Mysticism and Psychedelics: The Case of the Dark Night&quot; by C. Bache, Ph.D. -- in the event you&#039;ve not already checked it out, and might like to.

http://primal-page.com/night.htm

For directing my attention, my thanks to Sam Mickey, Ph.D. (Univ of San Francisco, Dept. Theology and Religious Studies): http://becomingintegral.wordpress.com/

In larger frame, &#039;deep dive&#039; - I realize question of concern, perhaps -- whether &quot;bottom&quot; can be reached, with the Terence McKenna legacy?  Or are the wake effects bottomless in some sense?

Do divers eventually find bottom and - come back up for air?  Or does deep diving only lead to -- deeper, deeper diving?  Never to come back up again?

In other words, is the legacy of T. McKenna mainly a cognitive dissonance trap -- into which those who&#039;ve fallen don&#039;t get back out?  And, swept away by the exuberance and inspiration of it all - in turn become fishers of men, casting his lines themselves?

Can McKenna&#039;s &#039;theories&#039; or &#039;ideas&#039; foster cognitive dissonance, and a conviction -- of &#039;possibility&#039; not certainty (goes the refrain) -- that mainly spawns abandon of reason or better interest?  In other words, what is its potential for &#039;inspiring&#039; new forms of irrationalism, even fanaticism, in his following?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I write to mention a scholarly lit source, &#8220;Mysticism and Psychedelics: The Case of the Dark Night&#8221; by C. Bache, Ph.D. &#8212; in the event you&#8217;ve not already checked it out, and might like to.</p>
<p><a href="http://primal-page.com/night.htm" rel="nofollow">http://primal-page.com/night.htm</a></p>
<p>For directing my attention, my thanks to Sam Mickey, Ph.D. (Univ of San Francisco, Dept. Theology and Religious Studies): <a href="http://becomingintegral.wordpress.com/" rel="nofollow">http://becomingintegral.wordpress.com/</a></p>
<p>In larger frame, &#8216;deep dive&#8217; &#8211; I realize question of concern, perhaps &#8212; whether &#8220;bottom&#8221; can be reached, with the Terence McKenna legacy?  Or are the wake effects bottomless in some sense?</p>
<p>Do divers eventually find bottom and &#8211; come back up for air?  Or does deep diving only lead to &#8212; deeper, deeper diving?  Never to come back up again?</p>
<p>In other words, is the legacy of T. McKenna mainly a cognitive dissonance trap &#8212; into which those who&#8217;ve fallen don&#8217;t get back out?  And, swept away by the exuberance and inspiration of it all &#8211; in turn become fishers of men, casting his lines themselves?</p>
<p>Can McKenna&#8217;s &#8216;theories&#8217; or &#8216;ideas&#8217; foster cognitive dissonance, and a conviction &#8212; of &#8216;possibility&#8217; not certainty (goes the refrain) &#8212; that mainly spawns abandon of reason or better interest?  In other words, what is its potential for &#8216;inspiring&#8217; new forms of irrationalism, even fanaticism, in his following?</p>
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